Legislature(2015 - 2016)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/06/2016 08:30 AM House FINANCE



* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to 4/7/16 at 7:30 a.m. --
+ HB 47 PERS CONTRIBUTIONS BY MUNICIPALITIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 47(FIN) Out of Committee
+= SB 124 EXTEND SUNSET ON AK COMMISSION ON AGING TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 124 Out of Committee
+ HB 241 NONRESIDENT SURCHARGE COMMERCIAL FISHING TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ HCR 4 US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION DELEGATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 4(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ HB 188 PERSON W/DISABILITY SAVINGS ACCOUNTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
SENATE BILL NO. 124                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act extending the termination date of the Alaska                                                                       
     Commission on Aging; and providing for an effective                                                                        
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:50:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BILL  STOLTZE,  SPONSOR,  remarked  that  the  only                                                                    
outstanding conversation  related to the bill  was about the                                                                    
fiscal  notes.  He  noted  the  reduction  of  one,  with  a                                                                    
recommendation of two  position cuts. He stated  that it was                                                                    
a  determination  by  the administration  in  the  following                                                                    
fiscal year.  He shared that the  commission had recommended                                                                    
the sunset. He  felt that there was broad  public support of                                                                    
the bill, and a strong constituency.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson   appreciated  the  bill   being  brought                                                                    
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Gara  referred to  the fiscal note.  He asked                                                                    
about the  positions being  deleted. Senator  Stoltze stated                                                                    
he  was not  at the  epicenter  of the  finance. He  thought                                                                    
there  was a  suggestion  for deeper  cuts.  He thought  the                                                                    
deletion of  2 positions presented  a stark reality.  He did                                                                    
not  think   having  a  place  holder   for  discussion  was                                                                    
necessary. He  thought the legislature could  use a reminder                                                                    
of the                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson  reiterated  that the  bill  limited  one                                                                    
position, and  shared that the following  legislatures could                                                                    
make more reductions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  agreed with Senator Stoltze  that cuts were                                                                    
necessary.  He  thought the  fiscal  note  should remain  as                                                                    
written.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:57:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  emphasized that the  reduction in                                                                    
the note  reflected a 50  percent reduction of staff  over 2                                                                    
years.  He  spoke  to  the  fact  that  the  people  on  the                                                                    
commission  were   overachievers  and  was   concerned  with                                                                    
placing too much  of a burden. He thought the  cuts were too                                                                    
steep.  He  suggested  coming  back  in  a  year's  time  to                                                                    
reevaluate.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki asked  about  moving  to amend  the                                                                    
fiscal note. Co-Chair Thompson replied  that he did not want                                                                    
to amend the fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  pointed out  that the  report (copy                                                                    
on file) from the Commission  on Aging spoke specifically to                                                                    
state implementation of the plan.  He stressed that the work                                                                    
on the  plan began in  FY 14, which  was two years  ahead of                                                                    
the work. It was anticipated  that the commission would work                                                                    
on  the   revised  plan  for   submission  to   the  federal                                                                    
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  thought the  bill was too  important to                                                                    
hold up the commission. She thought  it would be best to get                                                                    
the bill passed  and ready to move forward to  get it to the                                                                    
floor for a vote.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  relayed that the significant  decline in                                                                    
revenue was not a surprise to the commission.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:03:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  referred to  the  second  page of  the                                                                    
fiscal note. He  read a portion of the fiscal  note memo. He                                                                    
indicated  that the  reduction would  diminish the  agency's                                                                    
ability to  fulfill its statutory responsibilities.  He felt                                                                    
that  the  committee  should  only  cut  one  position,  and                                                                    
evaluate  whether or  not  to cut  another  position in  the                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  MOVED to  ADOPT conceptual  Amendment 1                                                                    
to the fiscal note:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The fiscal note would only delete one position in the                                                                      
     current year, without the statement of intent that a                                                                       
     second position be deleting the following year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED  for discussion. She remarked                                                                    
that the state  plan was written, and  updated with changes.                                                                    
She felt that the commission  would continue to progress and                                                                    
make  changes.   She  appreciated   the  reduction   of  one                                                                    
position, and stressed that there  would be an evaluation of                                                                    
the impact of that reduction.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg reemphasized  his position that it                                                                    
would be  easier to  keep the  third position  currently and                                                                    
cut next year. He was concerned of the                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  remarked that  it appeared  that there                                                                    
were three  positions reduced, because $93,000  was cut from                                                                    
FY 17 and an additional $200,000 in FY 18.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:07:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler emphasized  that  the finance  committee                                                                    
made spending and reduction decisions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stoltze was not anticipating  a discussion about the                                                                    
fiscal  note. He  relayed his  conversations with  the other                                                                    
body.  He   relayed  that  there   had  been  an   array  of                                                                    
discussions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson MAINTAINED her OBJECTION.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz, Edgmon, Gara                                                                             
OPPOSED: Gattis, Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Neuman, Thompson                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  FAILED (5/6). Conceptual  Amendment 1  failed to                                                                    
be adopted.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler reviewed the fiscal note.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman MOVED  to REPORT  SB 124  out of  committee                                                                    
with individual recommendations  and the accompanying fiscal                                                                    
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SB  124 was  REPORTED  out  of committee  with  a "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation and  with a previous fiscal  impact note: FN3                                                                    
(SFC for DHS).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:36 AM                                                                                                                    
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Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB47 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Summary of Changes ver A to ver N.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents amended statutes.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents Employers impacted by salary floor.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents effected employers.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents PERS Employer Salaries for FY08 - FY12 Affected Muniticaplities.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents PERS cities by 2010 population.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents PERS Employer Salaries for FY08 - FY12.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB47 Supporting Documents Total Active PERS employees.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB 47 NEW FN DCCED CRA 4-1-16.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB 188 NEW FN DHSS HCMS 4-1-16.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 188
HB 47 CS WORKDRAFT FIN vI 4-5-16.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB 047 - Actuarial Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB 47 NEW FN PERS 4-5-16.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 47
HB 188 NEW FN DHSS HCMS 4-6-16.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 188
HB 188 NEW FN DOR T&T 4-6-16.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HB 188
HCR 4 Article 5 HFIN.pdf HFIN 4/6/2016 8:30:00 AM
HCR 4